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Paul Jacobs

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During the evacuation of Vietnamese civilian refugees, a baby died on the USS Kirk despite the best efforts of the corpsman. Captain Paul Jacobs gave the baby a formal military burial at sea. Years later, he got a phone call from that baby's sister. (2:23)

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Paul Jacobs, who commanded several ships during the Vietnam War, muses over the need to kill the enemy in the course of his job, as well as the need to pivot towards humanitarian duties when required. The sorry spectacle of politicians managing wars when it should be left to the military is a sore point with him. (4:07)

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Captain Paul Jacobs served seven tours in Vietnam waters and the first time he returned home, he was welcomed. By the last time, he and his men were suffering the typical abusive homecoming remembered by veterans of that war. This despite the fact that they had just completed a miraculous refugee rescue operation which saved thousands. (3:59)

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The sailors of the USS Kirk knew that one of the Vietnamese women they had saved during the chaotic exodus of refugees had named a baby after the ship. Captain Paul Jacobs tracked her down and she came to the ship's crew reunion, along with Richard Armitage, a civilian official at the time who took charge of the largest rescue operation. (4:10)

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Despite the recent interest in the welfare of veterans, Paul Jacobs laments that the Veterans Administration still has not responded fully to the challenge. He worked in his home state of Maine to expand recognition of their plight in the run up to the 50th Anniversary program. He also has a thing or two to say about dilettante commanding officers. (3:08)

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If you send the military into a war, at least let them fight the war themselves, without micro-management from politicians. That's the lesson of Vietnam according to Paul Jacobs, who was an enthusiastic combatant but who also worked on a database of unexploded ordnance that was presented to the current government of his former foes. (3:52)

Paul Kaupas

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Paul Kaupas remembers growing up in Chicago and the circumstances that led him to join the Marines. While in basic training, he learned a lot of valuable skills that helped him be a great soldier. (6:50)

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Paul Kaupas remembers some memorable moments from his training at Fort Pendleton. After that, they left for Vietnam and arrived in Da Nang, Vietnam. (7:06)

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Paul Kaupas remembers going to Phu Bai and getting acclimated to the elements there. While out on patrol, they would often face sniper fire and have to deal with maintaining cover. (5:08)

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By chance, Paul Kaupas met up with his twin brother in country in Vietnam. They got to spend a few days together and catch up on things before leaving for Combined Action Group school in Da Nang. (7:50)